Further Down the Road with Asana.

[Article last updated: 9/27/13]


I’m still using Asana – and I’m forcing others to use it too, to their chagrin. 🙂 It was Jan 1st, 2012 when I initially wrote about Asana on Dave Enjoys, and I have written a few posts since then. It seems like now would be an appropriate time to post yet again about Asana.

Image of the Asana logo.
Image of the Asana logo. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

It might seem like I’m harping on the same old topic – but I hope each post provides new insights and reminds those who are perhaps thinking about getting organized but haven’t yet of this powerful tool for accomplishing tasks.

I also like to write about what features or refinements Asana could make to improve their software – and hope that others will add their feedback and maybe some folks at Asana will even read the post. 🙂

If I Wasn’t Invested…?

It is a bit harder of a question today than it was even a few months ago about whether I would use Asana if I hadn’t already invested so much time into it. The answer is “probably” – but not definitely. I’ve included a list of “feature requests” below which speak to what is lacking in Asana that would make me want to move on. I doubt that anyone has all of these features currently – but I do think, Astrid, for example, has done a better job with the mobile app (which appears to use caching and is thus much faster) and in creating pop-up reminders about missed calls (really nifty).

If you are just starting out with a todo list application – I’d recommend trying both Asana and Astrid1Unfortunately, it looks like Astrid will die a painful death after its acquisition by Yahoo.. Are there any other todo list apps you feel are a must try?

Feature Requests

  • Minor Issues
    • [Still: 9/27/13] The “New Workspace” option is still buried. [Original Report: 1/1/12]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] While I appreciate the thought behind auto-creating a “Personal Projects” workspace, I had already created a “Personal” workspace – so “Personal Projects” is redundant. I’d like to be able to delete it OR move tasks from my current Personal workspace into Personal Projects.
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Integrating with Facebook Connect would significantly open up the user audience. It is unlikely that many folks don’t have either a Google or a Facebook account – but there are numerous individuals who have Facebook accounts but not Gmail accounts. [Original Report: 7/13/12]
      • Along these lines, a native Facebook app. would be pretty cool that could published to our (private) news stream tasks we need to complete and updates that have been made.
      • This same functionality could also be added to Google+.
    • [Still: 9/27/13] An ability to archive complete tasks within a task needs to exist – e.g. when one creates sub-tasks for a task. Otherwise the interface becomes crowded. [Original Report: 6/12/13]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Allow one to mark a reoccurring task as “missed” or “incomplete” instead of marking complete/deleting. (e.g. if I’m supposed to take out the trash on Monday, but I don’t, I don’t want to delete the task [b/c I do want it to remind me next week] but I also don’t want to mark it as completed [b/c I didn’t]). [Original Report: 7/23/13]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Allow one to convert a project into a task and the project’s tasks into sub-tasks. [Original Report: 7/23/13]
    • [New: 9/27/13] Allow one to hide projects created by others that you do not want to see (e.g. that are not relevant to you) instead of requiring the other person to unshare the project on their end.
  • Significant Features
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Allow for Numeric Management of Task Priorities – So moving task priorities up and down by drag-and-drop takes too long when the list is long and while you can use Upcoming/Later/Today keyboard shortcuts, I prefer not to do so. It’d be nice if pressing say Ctrl+(number) would assign the task that number. If that number is higher than the number of tasks in the list, then it would just take the lowest priority (e.g., if I wanted to make sure something went right to the bottom of the list I could do something like Ctrl+999, even though Asana might actually make the task 58). [Original Report: 7/1/13]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Better support for recurring tasks, specifically those assigned to others – I’m looking for something similar to “chore management” but for adults. Specifically: [Original Report: 1/1/12]
      • The ability to setup recurring appointments for individuals and have them be reminded of them – e.g. via email and/or SMS until the task is completed.
      • I’ve temporarily worked around this by using Boomerang and setting up scheduled repeating emails until a person notifies me they have completed the task – but this still requires my manual intervention to stop the emails AND doesn’t support SMS.
      • See my post on web-based chore management for examples.
    • [Still: 9/27/13] A Native Microsoft Windows Desktop Application OR Offline Support for Asana – Now that I have an SSD hard drive, it isn’t that bad having to open Chrome and view the Asana pinned tab, but a native Windows application would still be nice – or at the least, offline functionality for the current web app. [Original Report: 1/1/12]
      • Especially local caching of tasks. Asana is miserably slow sometimes compared to a desktop app b/c it doesn’t appear to cache tasks locally and is always pulling from the live servers.
      • This innovation would also significantly lighten load on Asana’s servers.
    • [Still 9/27/13] Add a Link – Give us the ability to “attach” links to tasks as we currently can attach files. [Original Report: 7/13/12]
    • [Still 9/27/13] Remove from Main Workspace – Give us an option to keep tasks present in Projects but remove them from the My Tasks area. Sometimes I want to see only my “high importance” tasks in My Tasks – but right now they all show up there! Let me choose which ones should appear in My Tasks and which should only appear within specific projects. [Original Report: 7/13/12]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Friendly Project Names – “Right now you can submit to specific projects via email but only by using the unique numeric string that stands for a project id. Yuck. That isn’t very friendly. Asana needs a better way to handle this. Perhaps [email protected]? Where uniquename is a name the user chooses and myaccount is their account username?” [Original Report: 7/13/12]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Mark Project Days – “When I look at Asana I see a lot of tasks – but it is a Saturday and many of these tasks can’t be completed except on weekdays. It would be nice to set what days tasks can be accomplished and to filter out tasks which cannot be accomplished on specific days (e.g. calling the bank, talking to the boss, etc.).” [Original Report: 7/13/12]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Open Inbox – “Right now you can email new tasks into your inbox and so can others who are part of your workspace – but what about those outside of your workspace? Asana has the potential to be a full help desk solution – but only if it allows anonymous users to submit tickets (by anonymous, I mean to Asana, not anonymous in the truest sense). They need to be able to send a ticket to [email protected] and for a few ticket to be created in the inbox.” [Original Report: 7/13/12]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] Astrid-like pop-up on missed phone calls – “Asking if you want to make it into a task and when it should be due.” [Original Report: 6/12/13]
    • [Still: 9/27/13] A Last Touched Method – We need a “tickler” mechanism which allows us to “touch” tasks and mark them as such without completing them. In this way I can make sure that every week I’m reading throguh all my tasks – or at least the important ones…and tasks that haven’t been touched in a while can float to the top for review. [Original Report: 6/12/13]
    • [Still 9/27/13] Snooze Tasks – It’d be great to have a snooze option on tasks. Astrid has something like this, you can delay tasks by a day or two or hours etc. This is quite handy, causes the reminder to pop up again at the specified time and so on. [Original Report: 7/13/12]
    • Move Tasks Between Workspaces – Currently I cannot take a project/task from my “Personal” workspace and move it into my “Work” or “Church” workspaces. This should not be so. For example, I might have “brainstorm” ideas that I want to keep in my personal account until I am ready to implement them – then transfer them into my church/work accounts.
      • Another option would be to “share” projects/tasks between workspaces, this way a project/task could appear in multiple workspaces.
      • Okay, this hasn’t been fixed all the way. Asana added another level called “organizations” which can perform this sort of maneuver – but its only available to folks using company emails. 😛

Easy Peasy

Some of my feature requests are pretty simple programming tasks (speaking as a programmer). If I was Asana, here are the quick tasks I’d snap out soon to vastly improve the software without consuming a lot of time:

  • Snooze Tasks
  • Pop-Up on Missed Phone Calls
  • Add a Link
  • Archive Sub-Tasks

Other Articles

My initial article was written on Jan. 1st, 2012. I posted again about Asana on July 13th, 2012 and again on Oct. 16th, 2012.

FitBall is Pretty Awesome.

I’m not a big fan of Windows 8 (though I’m writing this post on it) and I’m not a big fan of exercise apps (e.g. Wii Fit), I find them too boring. But today in one of those select moments when I felt energetic b/c my auto-immune issues weren’t weighing me down I downloaded this game from the Windows Store called FitBall – and it is pretty awesome.

Now it doesn’t need to run on Windows 8. It looks like they built it for Windows 8 Metro, so maybe that is all it runs on, but it could be made to run on older Windows versions if the developers wanted to.

Essentially balls appear on the screen and you attempt to blow them up before they disappear – using your body. This uses your laptop’s webcam and then maps your movements against the locations of the balls. I almost broke a sweat playing through twice. Below you can see a photo of the augmented reality it creates – I’m real and the exploding balls are not…not vice versa (I know some people might get a little confused).

Where this is really exciting is in the potential for games that can be first person shooters and so on. It was always so frustrating when you got shot b/c your guy didn’t duck right, “Awww, I totally wouldn’t ducked before that.” Well, using this method one could…

News Release: Microsoft Implodes.

Image representing Microsoft
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Okay, okay, it hasn’t happened just yet – but let me put a prediction out there: Microsoft has finally made a choice leading to its rapidly impending doom. I’ve already received the “get over it” comments from other posters when I complained about the UX, but now it isn’t me (nor has it been for a long time) saying it alone. The classic question, “If a tree falls and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?” might be appropriate for my comments – but there can be no doubt that when a forest collapses – folks will hear it, and folks will see it, and folks will feel it.

Think I’m making things up? Take a look at two veteran bloggers and tech industry analysts on Microsoft Windows 8. Adrian Kingsley-Hughes writes Final thoughts on Windows 8: A design disaster. Then read Joe Wilcox’s Windows 8 is like a bad blind date.

Honestly, I want Microsoft and Windows 8 to succeed. I’m not a Microsoft-hater, I might even be a groupie. Some folks belong to the Apple cult, I might belong to the Microsoft cult. So, it really cuts me to the heart to write this post…not just b/c I like Microsoft and I like Windows,  but b/c I really like a LOT of Windows 8 – but not enough to overcome a horrific UX.

“Dave, what features?” Well, most of them are geeky features – the sort of stuff system administrators drool over…but, hey, that is what I am, so I am legitimately drooling…and at the same time sobbing, b/c I know I can’t have what I want without being painfully punished with the Metro UX.

For example the cloud connectivity that moves your profile around between devices seamlessly – and not just on your own domain or workgroup either. The auto-selection of mobile broadband versus wifi hotspots to save you money while being a road warrior. Did I fail to mention Windows To Go? DirectAccess? BranchCache? AppLocker? The lightning speed? Built-in antivirus? An actually useful built-in browser? An enhanced task manager? No, I’m not going to mention everything, go download the Product Guide PDF to read all the details

Okay, okay – a few more. Quite honestly, I’m a file buff. Working at Collages.net I managed at scaling from 5 TB to 80 TB (who knows what they are at now). Working for PBU I’ve undertaken something similar…from 2 TB to perhaps 60 TB now…and no, I don’t just buy storage b/c I love it…I buy it b/c the world is changing and our needs for storage are growing exponentially.

So, take a look at these FANTASTIC enhancements to Windows 8. First there is Kiran Bangalore’s post, “Redesigning chkdsk and the new NTFS health model.” Then Ilana Smith’s “Acting on file management feedback.” And don’t miss one of my favorites, Surendra Verma’s “Building the next generation file system for Windows: ReFS.” You’ll also find thrilling reading in Steven Sinofsky’s “Virtualizing storage for scale, resiliency, and efficiency.” I could go on and on, but instead let me encourage you to explore for yourself the wonderful blog by the Microsoft team “Building Windows 8.”

Now, you might justly say, “Dave, you haven’t shown how Microsoft will implode?” You are right, I haven’t. Microsoft has numerous other businesses besides Windows, but the point is that over the next few years it seems likely that Microsoft will hand off a massive amount of its market share on core products – such as Windows – to competitors including Apple, Google (Android), and Ubuntu (Linux). By the time they get their act together, no one will need them any more. Microsoft has long thrived on the legacy needs and familiarity of its customers…with this push that will alienate users heavily, they are going to lose this traditional cash cow.

Some might say, “The UX isn’t that bad…Dave you just like to whine.” Maybe I do like to whine. Andrew Vogel certainly thinks so….be that as it may, I’ve been using computers for a few years – the Commodore 64, Apple II, II+, IIe, IIgs. The 286, 386, 486, PI, PII, Celeron, and all the chips in-between. I’ve run DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, 98, Me, XP, Vista, and 7. I’ve messed around with various flavors of Linux and tried out a number of those ever-disappointing cloud OS’es. I’m not someone who is opposed to change – I live for it and love it….so when I say the UX is horrific, I am not saying, “Wahhh…Don’t make me learn something new.” The end.